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    Beginner Fitness: Daily Simple Questions Thread - August 08, 2020

    Beginner Fitness: Daily Simple Questions Thread - August 08, 2020


    Daily Simple Questions Thread - August 08, 2020

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 03:04 AM PDT

    Welcome to the /r/Fitness Daily Simple Questions Thread - Our daily thread to ask about all things fitness. Post your questions here related to your diet and nutrition or your training routine and exercises. Anyone can post a question and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer.

    As always, be sure to read the wiki first. Like, all of it.

    Also, there's a handy-dandy search bar to your right, and if you didn't know, you can also use Google to search fittit by using the limiter "site:reddit.com/r/fitness" after your search topic.

    Other good resources to search are Exrx.net for exercise-related topics and Examine.com for nutrition and supplement science.

    Be aware that the more relevant information you add, the more relevant the answers you receive will be. And if you are posting about your routine, please make sure you follow the guidelines.

    (Please note: This is not a place for general small talk or chit-chat. Also, the community decided long ago that we keep jokes, trolling, and memes outside of the Daily Q&A threads. Please use the downvote / report button when necessary.)

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    M/32/5’6: 2 year progress: 200lbs - 140lbs (July 2018 - Aug 2020)

    Posted: 07 Aug 2020 10:53 AM PDT

    Before/Current

    Post workout pics

    It's been just over two years since I started my fitness journey, mostly powered by the inspirational posts here and in other fitsubreddits, so figured I would contribute in case it inspires someone else. (using a throwaway account since my main has identifying info)

    Background:

    I was pretty sedentary for most of my life, not really into sports or physical activity of any kind. As I was approaching 30 I could feel my body slowing down, and going to a physical checkup made me a bit worried with my overall health especially with potential heart and diabetic genetics. So in early 2018 I decided to make a change.

    False start:

    I didn't want to join a gym because I didn't want to embarrass myself, so I started just by walking and occasionally jogging. Also bought myself a pull up bar and some bands. I don't even know why I got a pull up bar because I didn't even know how to train for it (although it would come in handy during a future quarantine). This wasn't very helpful as I lacked the discipline and commitment to do this myself. After a few months of going no where, (plus some life changes) I decided to sign up with a personal trainer/gym.

    Start:

    I didn't really do much research on gyms/trainers, I just wanted to start, so I found a nearby gym that had good enough reviews and signed up for 3 months. Figured paying money for a trainer was good motivation to keep going. I lucked out because the trainer I was assigned was pretty good at working with my fitness level. For the first month or so it was mostly cardio (treadmill walking) and bodyweight training, with some dumbbell work thrown in (starting at like 8lbs) 3 days a week. I'm glad it was a slow start because in the first two weeks there were multiple times that I ended up puking during the workout (I was pretty unfit). This was in July (and when the before pic was taken).

    3 months in:

    They do say it gets easier, and after the first month I wasn't feeling as sick during workouts and I was able to go on a regular basis. I never missed a day, and I started doing walking/jogging on the off days. 3 months in I did notice a major change in mindset; I no longer had to force myself to go to the gym, I started going on autopilot.

    Diet:

    My trainer had me go on an intermittent fasting diet at the start, and we were doing weekly weigh-ins. I lost about 30 pounds in the first 3 months. I hated the diet because I thought eating healthy meant eating bland. I didn't fully commit to what he laid out, but I was able to commit to the fasting, which definitely helped with the weight loss.

    Around November, I started keeping track of my weight and started messing around with what I ate. I used an app called fitmencook which allowed me to make more interesting meals, and I used the calories in that to get a rough sense for how many calories I was consuming with each meal. It probably wasn't very accurate but I was continuing to lose weight so I didn't care too much about the accuracy.

    Weight loss graph (there's a glitch and the year is shown as 2018 throughout for some reason)

    7 months in:

    I was feeling pretty great with my overall health, and even more impressed that I was able to commit to working out on a regular basis. However, paying for a trainer is not cheap, and it wasn't something I could continue to do long term. But by then I was almost doing things by myself anyways. I knew what areas would be worked on each day, and what sort of exercises needed to be done, so figured it was time to move on. During the last month with the trainer I actually asked him to show me use of barbell exercises. During this month I signed up for a commercial gym and started going two days a week. So I was now working out 5 days a week.

    April through November 2019:

    I started following the PHUL routine for a month or two and then followed with a PHAT routine after that, because I enjoyed doing SOMEthing everyday of the week (weekends was for complete relaxation) Both routines are great, but I realized that I might be missing something in how I was progressing because I was increasing weight whenever I felt like it, and my form was suffering because of it. Chose both routines because they came recommended in the wiki; I just wanted something that told me exactly what to do without me having to overthink things.

    November 2019 through Mar 2020:

    After hearing about nSuns on reddit I decided to try it out. I never wanted to attempt it because It seemed like a LOT of volume, and I wasn't sure if I wanted spend more than an hour at the gym. However having the progression built in was pretty helpful, plus really helped me focus on my form. I did end up spending more than an hour just doing weights, I had stopped running or doing any form of cardio entirely.

    The values below are calculated from the nSuns app and I never actually attempted my maxes, which is fine because gaining a lot of strength was not a huge priority for me. I also ran into some knee trouble, and basically stopped doing squats starting in January.

    • Bench: 115 > 180
    • Deadlift 220 > 295
    • OHP 80 > 120
    • Squat 150 > 215

    nSuns progression graph (zoomed in to show the values, so November is cut off)

    Quarantine:

    Once quarantine started I started doing the recommended routine from r/bodyweightfitness. I think the pull up bar was the best accidental purchase I made, because it came in REAL handy during this time. I also got myself a pair of rings which I hung off the pull up bar to do things like rows. Going to purchase some dumbbells+belt so I can continue to increase my weighted pull-ups and use it for things like curls. I started doing some skill stuff like L-sits and handstands. I also got back into running and finished the C25K app. Then graduated to C210K and now I'm working on the 13.1 app.

    Workout schedule:

    • M/W/F(mornings) - Recommended routine
    • T/T/S (mornings) - Running 5, 2, 10+ miles and focusing on increasing mileage
    • Daily (evenings) - Stretching/yoga in the evenings
    • Sunday - Rest

    Some current achievements:

    • ~10 weighted pull-ups (+35lbs using a backpack filed with books)
    • ~10 pseudo planche pushups
    • ~10 tucked ring rows
    • ~2 sec kickup handstand (near a wall rather than completely freestanding)
    • ~20 sec L-sit
    • 12mi run in about two hours (9.50min/mi)

    Quarantine diet:

    Almost completely cut out eating out (for obvious reasons) so I started using MyfitnessPal to keep track of calories and to hit my protein goal (currently maintaining at 2000 calories with a protein goal of 126g). The recipes feature in MFP was a game changer when I discovered it as it was helpful when I started experimenting with different recipes. I do not track on the weekends, but I don't necessarily go overboard either. Sticking to the calorie goal has intuitive taught me how much food I should be consuming, plus I can be flexible if I do end up eating out indulging in some treats.

    What's next:

    The initial goal was losing weight, but currently it's more about sticking to the routine and maintaining a balanced lifestyle. I never thought I would ever have the look of my current body. Not that it's that impressive compared to what I've seen on here, but definitely something I'm happy with, and it's something I can probably maintain going forward. Having some goals is helpful to making progress (Want to do things like planche, levers, handstand walks…). Once gyms open up again in my area I will prob do a 3 day full body routine to start and continue with the running which I actually sort of enjoy now.

    Takeaways:

    • Getting into the habit is more important than waiting for motivation. Figure out what can get you started into a routine.
    • If the goal is general fitness/weight-loss, then the exact routine, macros, accessories…etc don't matter all that much as long as you do SOMETHING. I think people (including myself early on) tend to overthink this.
    • Start small, start slow; give your body time to adapt. The weight, the speed, the intensity can increase over time.
    • Accurately tracking calories is important for weight loss, especially after the initial drop of just eating less. Those 1tbsp of oil (~120 calories) do add up over time.

    Thanks for reading and happy to answer any questions!

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    Gym Story Saturday

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 12:19 AM PDT

    Hi! Welcome to your weekly thread where you can share your gym tales!

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    Bi-Annual Music Megathread!

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 03:04 AM PDT

    Welcome to the Bi-Annual Music Megathread!

    This thread is for sharing songs and playlists that get you pumped up for your workout.

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    Standard barbell (30 mm) vs olympic barbell (50 mm)

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 03:53 AM PDT

    I'm planning on buying a barbell and I'm not sure whether I should buy a standard 30 mm barbell or an olympic 50 mm barbell.

    Apparently olympic barbells can hold a lot more weight but I think a standard barbell can hold more weight than expected. I mean there are both from steel, so the strength of those barbells should be equal or at least a standard barbell should hold more weight than 200 kg which is oftentimes specified in the description.

    I do have a 30 mm bar from steel that I can use as a barbell but I should test it's durability.

    What's your opinion on this?

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    Deep-water method vs German volume training

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 01:06 AM PDT

    I'm sure many people here, at least those who follow u/mythicalstrength's posts, have been intrigued by the deep-water method. It sounds brutal and straight to the point. But another program, that I'm sure a lot of people have heard of, is quite similar - German volume training (GVT).

    Both revolve around 10x10 sets, but the difference I'm interested in: rest time and percentage of 1rm used.

    Deep-water has you progress from rest intervals of 4 minutes, to 3 minutes, to 2 minutes (in the beginner routine, that is). GVT has rest intervals between 1-2 minutes, depending on if you use supersets or not. GVT also has you use around 60% of your 1RM, whereas Deep-water uses approximately 54% of your 1RM (70% of your 10RM).

    So now my question, or what I'm wondering about, is why does the deep-water method have such legendary status and unquestionable results (from the reviews I've read at least), and why do people do that instead of GVT, if GVT is so much more brutal - and maybe even a more popularized program? I don't know where I'm going with this, I just wondered - does anybody see any pros/cons with the two? Feel free to share your thoughts and experiences!

    Link to programs:

    https://liftvault.com/programs/strength/deep-water/

    https://liftvault.com/programs/bodybuilding/german-volume-training-routine-spreadsheet-gvt/

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    Question about jump

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 03:21 AM PDT

    I have one of these jump mini trampoline things here at home, I use it but I'm afraid of working out hard on it, so I was wondering if there's a risk of me working it too hard and breaking the net. Is that a risk? I have 75 kilos.

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    Barbells are not the best option?

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 03:07 AM PDT

    I was reading an article on Men's health and came across a claim I wasn't sure about

    https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a33532838/bodybuilding-weight-lifting-training-gym-mistakes-eugene-teo-video/

    where the author claimed that Mistake #1: Barbells are an incredibly convenient exercise tool, but they're usually not the best option.

    For those who don't want to click on the link, his argument is that "The barbell may not be an efficient choice, especially when it comes to your joints. "They force you to move in this fixed plane of motion, which isn't about being more or less 'functional', but it's more about the that you will expose your joints to a lot more shearing forces that could have easily been avoided by opting for a dumbbell, cable, or even a machine-based variation instead." and claims that the only barbell movement he does is deadlifts"

    Is this true? Because I see here that most of the recommended programs here areare barbell focused excercises etc.

    What do you guys think?

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    Self-Promotion Saturday

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 03:04 AM PDT

    Welcome to Self-Promotion Saturday

    This thread will serve as a weekly AutoModerator post, for anyone looking to get exposure for their Instagram, Youtube, blogspot, RedditMade, Kickstarter, TeeSpring, MySpace, AOL, stand-alone website, or stand-alone physical product.

    This post is the one time where people can advertise without repercussions, and the one thread when anything goes. All other advertisements will continue to be removed as per Rule #8.

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    $0 Budget Exercise

    Posted: 08 Aug 2020 12:32 AM PDT

    Hi r/Fitness I've been on this community for a while and I enjoy the success stories and the interesting advice you all have to give. So I'm here today looking for some of that today about a particular set of items I have about the house.

    I have some decent sneakers for running around the block in my neighborhood and I do have some small weights ranging from 5lb to 25lb. There is plenty of yard work to do to build plenty of multi-purpose muscle.

    The interesting question I have for you guys today is I randomly found a 5'2" (i'm 6' roughly if that's pertinent info) bamboo rod that I can hollow out the stops between. If I taped it up for support and added a handle of some kind (likely more tape or paracord leftover from Boyscout days.) I also found a plastic stopper already in it. So if I were to buy a ton of ball bearings, fill it up and simply swing it with force up and down controlling the movement, (think like swordsman training with wooden fakes) would that work as an arm/shoulder work out and is there any other movements (again I imagine I should ask sword people about this but i'm wanting more fitness than wielding a sword rn for the foreseeable future) that would work out other areas of the torso?

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    8-10 or 8-12

    Posted: 07 Aug 2020 10:50 PM PDT

    Which one is the better range for hypertrophy. Again, lots of mixed results on a topic like this. I'm bulking btw.

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    Should I workout right now

    Posted: 07 Aug 2020 11:26 PM PDT

    So I haven't worked out in like maybe three months and recently decided to start again. I started doing 10 pushups, 10 crunches, and 10 squats and adding 10 of each per day. Today I went out with my neighbors don't worry we were only like 5 and were wearing masks. We played for like 2 and a half hours non stop and did a lot of running. When I came back home it was already midnight. I did 50 knee pushups but I don't wanna do the rest because I'm exhausted.

    Should I workout or just wait until tomorrow? Because my abdomen and legs are really sore

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